{"id":1091982,"date":"2025-03-04T12:52:19","date_gmt":"2025-03-04T12:52:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/theaoi.com\/?post_type=inside-illustration&#038;p=1091982"},"modified":"2025-04-22T17:37:40","modified_gmt":"2025-04-22T16:37:40","slug":"inside-illustration-podcast-7","status":"publish","type":"inside-illustration","link":"https:\/\/theaoi.com\/inside-illustration\/illustration-for-gaming-season\/inside-illustration-podcast-7\/","title":{"rendered":"Inside Illustration Podcast 7"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns no-gap is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2063\" height=\"1417\" src=\"https:\/\/theaoi.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Gaming_Finalpiece_SusanYung.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1095562\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Illustration for gaming illustration by Susan Yung<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column has-off-white-background-color has-background is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"the-editorial-season-podcast-is-hosted-by-rachel-taylor-with-guests-corrine-myller-new-york-times-art-director-and-internationally-commissioned-illustrator-andre-carrilho\">Inside Illustration Podcast 7 : Gaming<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"the-editorial-season-podcast-is-hosted-by-rachel-taylor-with-guests-corrine-myller-new-york-times-art-director-and-internationally-commissioned-illustrator-andre-carrilho\"><br>Guests for the Illustration for Gaming season podcast are Catherine Unger, art director and illustrator who has worked for State of Play Games, Broken Rules, HBO, Nintendo and Disney, and Adam Vian, creative director, designer, writer and artist at SFB Games, an indie game studio whose latest game is Crow Country. Our host is Rachel Emily Taylor.<\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p>Our guests discuss the importance of the visuals for games, the significance of originality (and how there could be more weird games), the necessity for patience for long term projects, networking for artists in gaming, the impact of AI on the industry and lots more.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Find out the backgrounds of our podcast guests and host below, and listen below or search Inside Illustration on Spotify, Apple or where you find your podcasts.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"no\" allow=\"autoplay\" src=\"https:\/\/w.soundcloud.com\/player\/?url=https%3A\/\/api.soundcloud.com\/tracks\/2080319910%3Fsecret_token%3Ds-DRaSTBpMtjZ&#038;color=%23ff5500&#038;auto_play=false&#038;hide_related=false&#038;show_comments=true&#038;show_user=true&#038;show_reposts=false&#038;show_teaser=true\"><\/iframe><div style=\"font-size: 10px; color: #cccccc;line-break: anywhere;word-break: normal;overflow: hidden;white-space: nowrap;text-overflow: ellipsis; font-family: Interstate,Lucida Grande,Lucida Sans Unicode,Lucida Sans,Garuda,Verdana,Tahoma,sans-serif;font-weight: 100;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/theaoi\" title=\"The Association of Illustrators\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cccccc; text-decoration: none;\">The Association of Illustrators<\/a> \u00b7 <a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/theaoi\/aoi-inside-illustration-illustration-for-gaming\/s-DRaSTBpMtjZ\" title=\"AOI Inside Illustration - Illustration For Gaming\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cccccc; text-decoration: none;\">AOI Inside Illustration &#8211; Illustration For Gaming<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:40px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns no-gap is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column has-off-white-background-color has-background is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"the-editorial-season-podcast-is-hosted-by-rachel-taylor-with-guests-corrine-myller-new-york-times-art-director-and-internationally-commissioned-illustrator-andre-carrilho\">Catherine Unger, Art Director, 2D Game Artist and Illustrator<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.catherineunger.com\/\">Catherine Unge<\/a>r is an art director and 2D artist based in London. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After studying illustration and animation at university, she went on to work on a number of award-winning games over the span of her 12 year career, including titles such as&nbsp;<em><a href=\"https:\/\/store.steampowered.com\/app\/1837330\/Gibbon_Beyond_the_Trees\/\">Gibbon: Beyond the Trees<\/a>, <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.stateofplaygames.com\/south-of-the-circle\"><em>South of the Circle <\/em><\/a>and&nbsp;<em><a href=\"http:\/\/tangletowergame.com\/\">Tangle Tower<\/a><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Catherine\u2019s clients&nbsp;include SFB Games, State of Play Games, Broken Rules, HBO, Nintendo, Disney, Annapurna, BBC, Tate, Cadbury\u2019s, Channel 4<em>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Outside of the games, she spends her time working on personal illustrations, which usually consist of worried looking animals and sentient plants.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:25%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" 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SFB Games most notable releases are 2017&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nintendo.com\/us\/store\/products\/snipperclips-cut-it-out-together-switch\/\">Snipperclips<\/a> (a launch game for the Switch, and a second-party collaboration with Nintendo themselves), 2019&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/tangletowergame.com\/\">Tangle Tower<\/a> (a murder-mystery detective adventure game) and 2024&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/store.steampowered.com\/app\/1996010\/Crow_Country\/\">Crow Country<\/a> (a classic-style survival horror game set in an abandoned theme park).&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>His current project is <a href=\"http:\/\/tangletowergame.com\/\">The Mermaid Mask<\/a>, the follow-up to Tangle Tower that takes the form of a spooky nautical detective adventure.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In his free time, Adam likes playing weird old obscure PlayStation 1 games and reading turn-of-the-century adventure novels.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:46px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1570\" height=\"581\" src=\"https:\/\/theaoi.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/SFB-site-x2.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1092269\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">SFB Games, <a href=\"http:\/\/hauntthehouse.com\/\">Haunt the House<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:100%\">\n<div style=\"height:15px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure data-wp-context=\"{&quot;imageId&quot;:&quot;69a7060dd437d&quot;}\" data-wp-interactive=\"core\/image\" data-wp-key=\"69a7060dd437d\" class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full wp-lightbox-container\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1300\" height=\"371\" data-wp-class--hide=\"state.isContentHidden\" data-wp-class--show=\"state.isContentVisible\" data-wp-init=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\" data-wp-on--load=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" data-wp-on-window--resize=\"callbacks.setButtonStyles\" src=\"https:\/\/theaoi.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/crow-country-key-x2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1092306\"\/><button\n\t\t\tclass=\"lightbox-trigger\"\n\t\t\ttype=\"button\"\n\t\t\taria-haspopup=\"dialog\"\n\t\t\taria-label=\"Enlarge\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-init=\"callbacks.initTriggerButton\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-on--click=\"actions.showLightbox\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--right=\"state.imageButtonRight\"\n\t\t\tdata-wp-style--top=\"state.imageButtonTop\"\n\t\t>\n\t\t\t<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"12\" height=\"12\" fill=\"none\" viewBox=\"0 0 12 12\">\n\t\t\t\t<path fill=\"#fff\" d=\"M2 0a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v2h1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 1 .5-.5h2V0H2Zm2 10.5H2a.5.5 0 0 1-.5-.5V8H0v2a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h2v-1.5ZM8 12v-1.5h2a.5.5 0 0 0 .5-.5V8H12v2a2 2 0 0 1-2 2H8Zm2-12a2 2 0 0 1 2 2v2h-1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 0-.5-.5H8V0h2Z\" \/>\n\t\t\t<\/svg>\n\t\t<\/button><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><a href=\"https:\/\/store.steampowered.com\/app\/1996010\/Crow_Country\/\">Crow Country<\/a>, SFB Games<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:15px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:100%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1600\" height=\"450\" src=\"https:\/\/theaoi.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/tangle-tower-x-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1092268\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><a href=\"https:\/\/store.steampowered.com\/app\/359510\/Tangle_Tower\/\">Tangle Tower<\/a>, SFB Games, art by Catherine Unger<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:31px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns no-gap is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column has-off-white-background-color has-background is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"the-editorial-season-podcast-is-hosted-by-rachel-taylor-with-guests-corrine-myller-new-york-times-art-director-and-internationally-commissioned-illustrator-andre-carrilho\">Dr Rachel Emily Taylor, podcast host<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/rachelemilytaylor.co.uk\/\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/rachelemilytaylor.co.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Rachel <\/a>is the Course Leader of BA Illustration at Camberwell College of Arts. 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